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: | == Way forward == | ||
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So what are the plans for this site? Will it be more widely promoted to grow and become popular? Funny that a site usually either dies or becomes popular but it seems this one goes up and down. Will like to see it become a good alternative for wikipedia. | |||
I've been waiting to do some sexuality articles but didn't want them to dominate the site while it's still small so that people get the wrong idea but in other thoughts it may just get more people interested in it as well. So don't know what to do. Wikipedia isn't exactly friendly towards such articles. Not censorship or anything but their no original research policy makes it difficult as there's not a lot of tertiary sources for such information. Then there's also the merge brigade who wants there to be as few articles as possible. Managed to get a a whole article merged into another where there was substantially less info on the subject just because they considered the topics too closely related. Made me really angry. [[User:Biofase|Biofase]] [[User_talk:Biofase|<sup style="color:red">flame</sup>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Biofase|<small style="background-color:black;color:white"> stalk </small>]] 19:00, 10 October 2015 (CEST) | |||
:Some promotional activities are to be expected from next year onward, after the Stichting Paraduin has been activated. | |||
:We are not a Wikipedia copycat though. Instead of popularity, we aim for quality. This is a long process that will span many generations. We are also not tied to the pornographic industry, like Wikipedia's mr. Wales. That doesn't mean the topic of sexuality has no place here, but it must be handled with care. Keep in mind that not all readers are adults. Regards, [[User:Guido den Broeder|Guido den Broeder]] ([[User talk:Guido den Broeder|talk]]) 23:14, 21 October 2015 (CEST) | |||
::Of course, will try to do. My view is that articles should be informative enough but at the same time not every topic needs visual illustration. Wikipedia editors seem to want to have a picture with every article even when the topic is pretty easy to imagine without such. [[User:Biofase|Biofase]] [[User_talk:Biofase|<sup style="color:red">flame</sup>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Biofase|<small style="background-color:black;color:white"> stalk </small>]] 21:19, 4 December 2015 (CET) | |||
== Seksualiteit == | |||
De artikelen van de seksualiteit voor nu moeten verschijnen als gebruiker / Blog | |||
is er al een die geen bronnen heeft, is misschien wel het proces [[User:penarc| R C Peña]] | |||
:Wikisage offers two ways of dealing with a topic: articles (which should be neutral) and essays. Regards, [[User:Guido den Broeder|Guido den Broeder]] ([[User talk:Guido den Broeder|talk]]) 23:17, 21 October 2015 (CEST) | |||
::Didn't get all of that but his problem seems to be that there's no sources. As I said sources for these articles are rather hard to come by, why they aren't particularly wikipedia friendly. So can we get some clarification on the difference between an article and an essay? Lack of sources don't automatically make an article non-neutral just like sources won't make it neutral, but it's now been marked as an essay. [[User:Biofase|Biofase]] [[User_talk:Biofase|<sup style="color:red">flame</sup>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Biofase|<small style="background-color:black;color:white"> stalk </small>]] 21:16, 4 December 2015 (CET) | |||
::So I got a message that it was marked as an essay because it doesn't have citations. So I asked again what's the criteria as you indicated it's neutrality and not sources? And what is Penarc's authority in deciding that no sources means it's an essay? [[User:Biofase|Biofase]] [[User_talk:Biofase|<sup style="color:red">flame</sup>]]|[[Special:Contributions/Biofase|<small style="background-color:black;color:white"> stalk </small>]] 15:57, 12 December 2015 (CET) | |||
== template metadata == | |||
Guido | |||
misschien een interpretatie / aanpassing van de template metadata ontbreekt in de wikipedia Engels editie.--[[User:Penarc|Penarc]] ([[User talk:Penarc|talk]]) 15:29, 31 October 2015 (CET) | |||
== Written articles == | |||
Please remove all articles from NL Wikisage en EN Wikisage, written by my [[user:Truusuitdelft]] en [[user:Juliën]]. Thank you. You can block me after all articles are deleted. [[User:Truusuitdelft|Truusuitdelft]] ([[User talk:Truusuitdelft|talk]]) 14:41, 28 May 2018 (CEST) | |||
:Second request granted first. [[User:Guido den Broeder|Guido den Broeder]] ([[User talk:Guido den Broeder|talk]]) 16:28, 28 May 2018 (CEST) | |||
== Chronic == | |||
http://en.wikisage.org/w/index.php?title=Chronic_fatigue_syndrome&oldid=2176 | |||
You say wData is not a reliable source | |||
Nevertheless I mean wData refers to all wikiMedia resources in one shoot | |||
Probably you used other proper sources, in moment I do not see anyone there | |||
[[User:penarc|R C Peña]] | |||
==User:Willy On Wheels== | |||
An account was recently created with the username "Willy on Wheels", a name vandals often use. (In short, clearly a vandal.) Could you please block the user so they don't ever get a chance to go on a wild vandal rampage? Thanks! --[[User:Selfie City|SelfieCity]] ([[User talk:SelfieCity|talk]]|[[Special:Contributions/Special:Contributions/Selfie City|contributions]]) 02:38, 7 May 2019 (CEST) | |||
== Herr den Broeder == | |||
I have seen many link to plain wikipedia, I prefer wikidata, not intended evaluate a source (I mean that would be wanting etc.) but it a good overview what is on WikiMEDIA-souces not only media, text, citations and so on. | |||
Many our editions here are crude WP copy paste... not? | |||
--[[User:Penarc|Penarc]] ([[User talk:Penarc|talk]]) 16:34, 4 July 2019 (CEST) | |||
:However, Wikisage is not a WMF site and we can't control what is on Wikidata nor the artciles on which it is based. The quality is often poor. It is mostly used by smaller WMF wiki's to auto-fill infoboxes. [[User:Guido den Broeder|Guido den Broeder]] ([[User talk:Guido den Broeder|talk]]) 16:41, 4 July 2019 (CEST) | |||
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Way forward
So what are the plans for this site? Will it be more widely promoted to grow and become popular? Funny that a site usually either dies or becomes popular but it seems this one goes up and down. Will like to see it become a good alternative for wikipedia.
I've been waiting to do some sexuality articles but didn't want them to dominate the site while it's still small so that people get the wrong idea but in other thoughts it may just get more people interested in it as well. So don't know what to do. Wikipedia isn't exactly friendly towards such articles. Not censorship or anything but their no original research policy makes it difficult as there's not a lot of tertiary sources for such information. Then there's also the merge brigade who wants there to be as few articles as possible. Managed to get a a whole article merged into another where there was substantially less info on the subject just because they considered the topics too closely related. Made me really angry. Biofase flame| stalk 19:00, 10 October 2015 (CEST)
- Some promotional activities are to be expected from next year onward, after the Stichting Paraduin has been activated.
- We are not a Wikipedia copycat though. Instead of popularity, we aim for quality. This is a long process that will span many generations. We are also not tied to the pornographic industry, like Wikipedia's mr. Wales. That doesn't mean the topic of sexuality has no place here, but it must be handled with care. Keep in mind that not all readers are adults. Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:14, 21 October 2015 (CEST)
- Of course, will try to do. My view is that articles should be informative enough but at the same time not every topic needs visual illustration. Wikipedia editors seem to want to have a picture with every article even when the topic is pretty easy to imagine without such. Biofase flame| stalk 21:19, 4 December 2015 (CET)
Seksualiteit
De artikelen van de seksualiteit voor nu moeten verschijnen als gebruiker / Blog is er al een die geen bronnen heeft, is misschien wel het proces R C Peña
- Wikisage offers two ways of dealing with a topic: articles (which should be neutral) and essays. Regards, Guido den Broeder (talk) 23:17, 21 October 2015 (CEST)
- Didn't get all of that but his problem seems to be that there's no sources. As I said sources for these articles are rather hard to come by, why they aren't particularly wikipedia friendly. So can we get some clarification on the difference between an article and an essay? Lack of sources don't automatically make an article non-neutral just like sources won't make it neutral, but it's now been marked as an essay. Biofase flame| stalk 21:16, 4 December 2015 (CET)
- So I got a message that it was marked as an essay because it doesn't have citations. So I asked again what's the criteria as you indicated it's neutrality and not sources? And what is Penarc's authority in deciding that no sources means it's an essay? Biofase flame| stalk 15:57, 12 December 2015 (CET)
template metadata
Guido misschien een interpretatie / aanpassing van de template metadata ontbreekt in de wikipedia Engels editie.--Penarc (talk) 15:29, 31 October 2015 (CET)
Written articles
Please remove all articles from NL Wikisage en EN Wikisage, written by my user:Truusuitdelft en user:Juliën. Thank you. You can block me after all articles are deleted. Truusuitdelft (talk) 14:41, 28 May 2018 (CEST)
- Second request granted first. Guido den Broeder (talk) 16:28, 28 May 2018 (CEST)
Chronic
http://en.wikisage.org/w/index.php?title=Chronic_fatigue_syndrome&oldid=2176 You say wData is not a reliable source Nevertheless I mean wData refers to all wikiMedia resources in one shoot Probably you used other proper sources, in moment I do not see anyone there R C Peña
User:Willy On Wheels
An account was recently created with the username "Willy on Wheels", a name vandals often use. (In short, clearly a vandal.) Could you please block the user so they don't ever get a chance to go on a wild vandal rampage? Thanks! --SelfieCity (talk|contributions) 02:38, 7 May 2019 (CEST)
Herr den Broeder
I have seen many link to plain wikipedia, I prefer wikidata, not intended evaluate a source (I mean that would be wanting etc.) but it a good overview what is on WikiMEDIA-souces not only media, text, citations and so on.
Many our editions here are crude WP copy paste... not? --Penarc (talk) 16:34, 4 July 2019 (CEST)
- However, Wikisage is not a WMF site and we can't control what is on Wikidata nor the artciles on which it is based. The quality is often poor. It is mostly used by smaller WMF wiki's to auto-fill infoboxes. Guido den Broeder (talk) 16:41, 4 July 2019 (CEST)